Mulan
Perfect weather for some heated debate!

Mike Biggett
Good afternoon, very sad to hear about Lloyd

Mike Biggett
Andris is making a lot of sense

jack ho
people ARE now judge my the colour of their skin and sexuality

Thinking Peter
When we fill out a government form one of the questions is "are you a an Aboriginal person, a Torres Strait Islander person" is this not divisive ?

jack ho
where does merit fit in?

jack ho
can can NOT be be so specific Anris...... we, as a society, work for a WHOLE

Bach-ing Madeline
@Thinking Peter I agree, also constantly being asked country of birth. Some ppl settled here long before others were born here. Who is "more Australian"? That's how it comes across to me anyway.

jack ho
I agree Mr Baldwin

Thinking Peter
Bach-ing Madeline exactly

Spencer Ferrier
I agree with Antony Carr

jack ho
Andris... please define justice.

David Horrocks
Antony’s comment about power seeking is very valid. But is this promoted by media pushing for content which raises antagonistic sentiment and thereby more viewers/more power even for themselves?

Mike Biggett
Penny Wong will have to explain to Xi her disloyalty if she becomes Foreign Minister

jack ho
bloody hell Mr Baldwin....... you would make a GREAT dinner party guest

jack ho
to Mr Biggett.... quite

jack ho
so Andris where does merit fit in

Bach-ing Madeline
Andris now at job interviews I have heard it said cultural fit is as important as skills/experience. People are sacked from their jobs if they don't agree with "the narrative"

Mike Biggett
Howard's Black-arm-banders, as I recall, were the whites with guilt complexes, rather than the indigenous.

Dale Turner
Sounds very much like Socrates...

David Horrocks
Peter - it seems now obvious that education has ceased to be a public service to the citizens and has transformed into a business which benefits mostly its senior staff

jack ho
as you say Mr baldwin..... FREE SPEECH.

jack ho
Andris this is trade and capitalism..... not identity politics

Tim Dein
It appear that Aust Govt is standing up to the bully China at this current time

Bach-ing Madeline
@Andris I agree with you and anyone who says anything about any particular country such as China is called racist. This is the identity politics at work @simon last name

Dale Turner
China is taking advantage of Covid 19 to bring Hong Kong into its absolute rule...

Tim Dein
China by its nature is not interested in anything that western civilisation might call fair

Thinking Peter
I agree Andris we won't be giving the China the flick , all will be forgiven business as usual with China in 2021 sadly

Noel Rath
In relation to UQ, it's clear that the university has demonstrated that they are going where the money comes from. Any pretence by UQ that they independent thinkers is clearly wrong.

Bach-ing Madeline
I agree with @Sheree Waks except I would say plandemic. Another whole rabbit hole.

Noel Rath
To criticise the PRCone can be accused of racism. Here is an example of identity politics, which is never OK. We are human beings who have a right to be free thinkers and not categorised into groups.

jack ho
Identity politic..... in Australia we have 2 flags. the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag......which one do you identify with

Mike Biggett
The Dragon is about to give itself a big chewy Hong Kong dinner, unusually meaty for a Chinese supper.

Bach-ing Madeline
"Unbalanced" or "mental issues" is today's way of shutting down proper investigation including criminal investigation.

Bach-ing Madeline
@Mike Biggett they'll eat anything with a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. (Ooooh racisssssst)

Bach-ing Madeline
And skin and cook them alive. This is what we are trading with and bending the knee to.

jack ho
Andris, This has NOTHING to do with identity politics and free speech

Dale Turner
we may have to make a choice USA or China...Very few will be able to stand alone.

jack ho
Democracy involves compromise Andreis....

Thinking Peter
Bach-ing Madeline exactly another Co vid in the future sadly

David Horrocks
The best way to wean off China is in the hands of the buyers throughout the world. Without the containing cash flow China will wither

David Horrocks
Sorry I meant continuing

Tim Dein
China would be still be backward peasant society if not for the communist party. But they are too big for their own shoes in trying to push their identity politics to any country who trades with them

Bach-ing Madeline
@Thinking Peter I have ignored this one as far as possible and will ignore the next one. It's a power grab and means of upending society see UK Column News YT esp last Wed vid

Dale Turner
Between the right and the left We nearly lost democracy in the 1930's do any of the panelist see a comparison today?

Bach-ing Madeline
@Thinking Peter and nobody much is talking about it. The excuse for social engineering this has provided.

Tim Dein
True, but initially they needed to feed their people

jack ho
Mr Carr... quite... communism encourages obedience and discourages everything else

Noel Rath
The PRC is a totalitarian dictatorship as was Nazi Germany and the USSR, The PRC expansionism now is similar to the Nazi's taking over Czechoslovakia and Austria. Similar absolutely yes.

jack ho
what is Andrew"s book please?

Bach-ing Madeline
@Tim Dein they still need to feed their ppl hence the land grabs here. And the water that gets bottled and exported to them while we have towns that are completely dry. I won't go into baby formula

Thinking Peter
Bach-ing Madeline yes that's how they operate their ruthless

Thinking Peter
And more mega apartments for Sydney guess who will buy them

jack ho
that is the point Andris.. people are using their identity to their advantage

climaterealistsbondi
Socialism always becomes dictatorial. The Nazis were Socialists. Mussolini was voted Socialist of the year. Bottom line-give Socialists a sniff of power and tyranny becomes inevitable.

Noel Rath
climaterealist Agree with you.

Thinking Peter
sheree good points

jack ho
yes please

Bach-ing Madeline
@climaterealistsbondi 100% correct. I agree. I have deep concerns at the direction we are heading in and moreso Britain if you look into what is happening there. It is being described as totalitarian